We regret to announce that

RV Safety Systems is no longer in business

We want to thank all of our loyal customers for the opportunity to serve you over the years.

If you purchased one of our proprietary Fire Detection Systems, please do not hesitate to contact us for ongoing support or product questions.

 

Please note:  while RV Safety Systems is no longer in business, we continue to offer for sale, various fire detection systems that we have developed over the past 10 years.  You can visit our new website:  click here

 

Jim Shepherd

303-478-3501

jim@firedetectionguy.com

 

 

Special Announcement: 

We now have refrigerator fire protection capability!!  

Last year, we did a special fire detection/suppression system installation with an EG-400-5 detection system.  We re-programmed the microprocessor so that all five sensors were active and could trigger the suppression system.  This allowed us to put fire detection and suppression capability in the refrigerator flue.  Please call us for more details (888-349-0704)

 

Special Pricing:  because of the continued troubled economy, we are extending our show special pricing on our fire suppression system for a limited time.  We have chosen not to publish the substantial reductions in pricing.  Please call us for the most recent prices (888-349-0704)

 

 

Engine and Generator

Fire Detection AND Suppression System

This system was developed by RV Safety Systems and is made in the USA!

Please note:  while this system was developed for the RV market, it has a broad range of possible applications including stationary generators, logging equipment, etc. 

Please call us to discuss your application (888-349-0704)

 

 

Major System Components:

EG-400 Fire Detection Monitor

RValve electrically activated valve

2.5 Gallon Supply Tank

Special Swirl Nozzle

Note: the above photos are thumbnails - click on them for larger view

 

This system is designed to continuously monitor the engine and generator compartment's temperatures and automatically extinguish a fire.  The system is very fast reacting and will extinguish a fire before it becomes fully involved.

The generator can now be operated when you are away from the RV without fear of losing of the vehicle and its contents or  exposing your pet(s) to disaster.  If the monitor detects a fire, it triggers the RValvewhich then dispenses highly effective Cold Fire® fire suppression material. 

Our system can safely shut down the generator and/or the propane system if a fire is detected.  Our complete kit contains the generator shut-off module and the propane detector/solenoid valve kit that shuts off the propane in the event of an engine or generator fire.  In addition, the propane system will also shut off the propane if a leak is detected. 

The system mounts the pressure supply system in one of the bays and then dispenses the Cold Fire® racing based fire suppression material very accurately via two swirl head nozzles for the engine compartment and one swirl head for generator compartment. 

System Details:

The two major components of the system are the EG-400™ fire detection system and the RValve™.  They are described below. 

EG-400™ or EG-400-5™

The EG-400™ or EG-400-5™is the fire detection system.  Both units were developed by RV Safety Systems.  They are active alarm systems which continuously monitors the temperature of both the engine and generator compartments and display the selected compartment temperature.  The system provides an audible early warning alarm as well as triggering the RValve™ and fire suppression system if a fire is detected.  Major features of the detection system are:

The EG-400™is a two sensor system that monitors the engine and generator compartment temperature.  The features of this system are listed below.

  • A fail-safe and reliable device designed to continuously monitor the engine and generator compartment temperatures.  The digital readout assures the owner that the system is functioning properly.

  • Two levels of alarms to give early warning of potential problems.

  • Monitor has a relay which activates the RValve™ and the fire suppression system.

  • Each compartment low-level (or early warning) alarm set-point can be set by the owner, based on history of that compartment's temperature

  • System will detect wiring problems in the sensor wiring (shorts or open circuit)

  • Can be easily installed with basic tools

The EG-400-5™ has all of the features of the EG-400™ plus three additional channels to monitor owner selected locations.  We now have three versions of this model. 

  • Version 1 has the two active channels and with the additional three channels used for monitoring of temperatures for information only.  This version will not trigger the fire suppression system for the additional three channels.

  • Version 2 was recently introduced to address the needs of fire protection in areas like the refrigerator service area.  It has all 5 sensors active so that any one can trigger the system.

  • Version 3 is a special order unit that has all 5 sensors active, with the additional feature that the trigger temperature can be set independently by the owner.  This unit was developed for a non-RV application.  Contact us for more details if you want to consider it for an RV.

For detailed information on the EG-400™, click here

For EG-400™ owner's manual/installation instructions, click here

For EG-400-5™ owner's manual/installation instructions, click here

 

RValve™

The RValve™is the heart of the fire suppression system.  It was jointly developed with Safecraft Inc., a leader in developing fire suppression systems for racing and military vehicles.

The valve has a proprietary design which incorporates  a high-flow spool valve.  The valve is activated electrically by the EG-400™ if a fire is detected.  It can also be mechanically activated in the event of a major electrical system failure (please note:  the mechanical valve must be held in the open position to completely discharge the pressure vessel.

For more information on the RValve™, click here 

For the fire suppression system installation manual, click here

If all of the information on this, and other referenced, pages is confusing (it was written by an engineer for crying out loud), please check our FAQ document (updated 9/10/07).  This document should concisely answer most questions.   click here

We recently did a "full blown" installation with very high level of "attention to detail" on a gorgeous new coach.  I consider this to be the best installation that I am aware of.  We have documented that installation with several photos, brief description of the installation of each system component, and links to hardware suppliers.  click here

Most of our installations use one or more of the "Bosch Type" mini ISO relays.  A data sheet for that relay is shown here

 

We market our system at three levels:

    The basic system $1695 (add $200 for the EG-400-5):

  • EG-400™ or EG-400-5™ fire detection monitor

  • RValve™ fire suppression activator

  • 2.5 gallon pressure vessel (7 inch diameter, 24.5 inches tall)

  • Three swirl nozzles and associated hardware

  • 32-ounce bottle of Cold Fire® concentrate (see below for more information)

The complete system $2195 (add $200 for the EG-400-5) (see photos below):

  • The basic system listed above
  • Beautiful hardwood surround for the monitor (Oak or Cherry)
  • Ram Mount for easy mounting of the monitor/surround
  • Propane detection and shut off solenoid system.  When this system detects propane, it shuts off the supply.  In combination with our fire suppression system, it will shut off the propane if a fire is detected.
  • Generator shut-off timer module.  This relay can be used with most generators.  It briefly connects the stop and ground circuits in the generator control circuit. 

Hardwood surround for monitor (oak or cherry)

Ram Mount for monitor

Generator shut-off module

Propane detection/shut off system

Bosch-type relay and socket (3 ea)

Note:  the above photos are thumbnail, click on them to enlarge

 

    The complete system installed ($4995)

        We will install the complete system in your coach.  Please contact us for an appointment

 

 

If the system is owner-installed, they will need to furnish:

  • DOT air brake tubing for plumbing (3/8 copper tubing must be used in the generator and engine compartments).

  • 18 or 22 gauge twisted pair cable (commonly called communication cable) for connecting the sensors to the EG-400™, connecting the EG-400™ to the RValve™ and connecting the EG-400™ to a 12V power supply

  • Misc. mounting clamps and hardware

 

Why be concerned about engine fires?

On Friday July 13, a fellow RV owner and vendor to the industry (Motosat products) had a devastating fire that started in the engine compartment.  Their story is posted at:  http://swaimquest.com/Coach_Fire.aspx.  This page is a must read!  It really makes you think about how you would address a similar problem.

Gary and Karen Swaim's fire 7/13/07

 

On Sunday June 29, 2008 there was another motorhome fire involving a top-of-the-line motorhome.  In addition to the total loss of the vehicles, the owners now face having to pay for the fire department to fight the resulting forest fire!  (click here for details)

Motorhome fire in B.C. 6/29/08

 

Why be concerned about generator fires?

Statistics suggest that engine fires occur far more frequently than generator fires.  However, generator fires can occur when we are away from our RV and thus can result in a total loss of the RV.  Many inverter/generator systems have an auto start feature than often starts the generator when we are away.  Some folks leave their generator running when they leave to keep the RV cool or to provide a cool environment for their pets. 

We were vendors at the FMCA International Convention in Perry, GA in March of 2007 and had a friend who experienced a major generator fire when they were away from the coach (we were having dinner with them).  Fortunately, some folks close by had extinguishers and were able to extinguish the fire before it spread to the rest of the coach.  The photo below is their coach:

 

 

Testing of the system

We have tested the system in a generator box.  The box had two 16 inch diameter pans with about 1/2 inch of diesel fuel/gasoline mixture.  The box effective dimensions were 44 inches long by 24 inches wide by 32 inches tall.  That is a typical size box for a 10-12 KW RV diesel generator.
 

The system was plumbed so that one head was in the box and two heads were outside the box (simulating their being in the engine compartment).  The head and sensor were at the top of the compartment, approximately in the center.

The ambient temperature was about 50 degrees.  The following is the timing of the test event:

  • From close of door after starting pans on fire to 97 degree (F) sensor reading:  11 seconds

  • From 97 degree reading to first alarm (250 degrees F):  6 seconds

  • From first level alarm (250 degrees) to max alarm (400 degrees) and activation of the RValve™:  5 seconds

  • From first spray to empty:  40 seconds.

The full test from ignition to complete extinguishing took less than one minute and almost no damage was inflicted on the generator box.  The spray pattern of the nozzles every effectively distributed the Cold Fire® and the fire was out within 10 seconds of activation.  The fire detection system was very responsive, detecting a fire in less than 20 seconds of ignition.  The 40 second discharge time was well in excess of that needed to extinguish the fire, which would virtually eliminate any re-ignition of the fuel.

 

Please Note

We proudly use Cold Fire® in all of our fire suppression systems and handheld extinguishers.  Cold Fire® is an environmentally friendly, extremely effective fire extinguishing agent.  It is non-toxic and non-corrosive and is UL listed (2N75) as well as EPA SNAP approved.  Cold Fire® is approved by most automotive racing sanctioning bodies and is considered an acceptable substitute for toxic foam and Halon.

 

Description SKU # Price

2010 Show Price

Basic Fire suppression system with EG-400

FDS-2

 $1695

Call

Basic Fire suppression system with EG-400-5

FDS-5

$1895

Call

Complete EG-400 kit as described above

FDS-2 kit

$2195

Call

Complete EG-400-5 kit as described above FDS-5 kit $2395

Call

EG-400 Fire Detection Monitor Only FD-2 $695  
EG-400-5 Fire Detection Monitor Only FD-5 $895  

 

Contact us for more information: 

        Email:      jim@rvsafetysystems.com

        Phone:    303-478-3501  or  888-349-0704